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TOPIC: Gay Marriage
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Well once again we have a He Said She Said with Gucci and me. This time it is gay marriage. Now again I will put my basic political and life philosophy out there for all to read. I believe that if it doesn't cost me (personally or as a tax payer) money, it doesn't harm children and it doesn't take away rights then I don't much care what people do. So my stance is clear; this includes gay marriage.
Now if it will cost me money, if my taxes increase, my insurance premiums increase (Like the IDIOT democrats haven't already screwed that pooch) then I am definitely against it. Now don't get me wrong I am not marching in the street for it (or against it). I am not so simple minded that I would vote for politicians that champion it (or are against it) to the detriment of the whole nation either, which many simpletons do. Someone who would do that is a total drain on society at large and pretty much a sorry excuse for a human being, in my net gain voter opinion. It is basically a non issue to me. Also let me say if straight marriage costs me money I am against it too!
So here is my stance. I don't give a dang if a man marries a woman, a man, a goat, a football, seven women, a dwarf, someone outside his race, his religion, a midget, a crack head, a democrat or a space alien, or any combination of those. If it doesn't cost me money, hurt kids, or take away rights then go get 'em.
Note****** the outcome is EXACTLY the same if you are forced between marrying the goat and the d....... oh never mind, everyone knows that already.
Sage <--N always SFW
It's pretty clear that this is a highly divisive topic, but it is my hope that we can discuss it without descending into accusations of "hate" and "ignorance" which are ridiculous and do nothing to advance the discussion.
Like Sage, it doesn't matter to me one way or another who someone loves, sleeps with, or marries as long as all parties are consenting adults. It's not a financial issue, it's not a moral issue, and it's not a lifestyle issue. It's an issue of whether "rights" are being denied a special interest group, in this case gays and lesbians.
The short answer is, no. Rights are not being denied gays and lesbians. Gays and lesbians have the exact same rights as every other American. The "right" to marry (and whether marriage is a right at all is certainly debatable, but not the focus of today's discussion) is one that is legally restricted for everyone, regardless of sexual orientation. Every American has the ability to marry an adult of the opposite sex as long as that person is a consenting non family member. The "right" to marry is already equal for everyone. We run into trouble when we start creating rights for certain factions of society, and the issue of gay marriage is absolutely a "created right".
Still, it's not the issue of gay marriage itself that bothers me. I'll say again, I'm not against the idea of gay marriage. I'm not for it either; I'm actually neutral when it comes to the issue itself. I see it as an issue of states rights. Put it to a popular vote in individual states and let the people have their say. Of course, the problem we run into when the people are allowed a voice is that when the minority in power doesn't like the voice of the majority it wants to rule, the minority then gets fancy in the courts and forces the majority to swallow a very bitter pill. We saw this in California recently when Prop 8 was overturned by an activist court. The people of California overwhelmingly voted in favor of legally defining traditional marriage but unfortunately, liberals are only interested in the will of the people when it coincides with their agenda. Which is rare. So then we have this unfortunate practice of legislating from the bench and circumventing the democratic process.
Leave it to the states; let the people speak. And when they do, regardless of which way the vote swings, government must be allowed to work the way it was designed - for the people and by the people - because when minority opinion is forced upon the majority by activist judges in blatant defiance of the will of the people, well, we are on a very slippery slope indeed.
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